Do community groups meet with candidates?

Recently I was attending a non-partisan event and overheard a candidate's mother say that her husband arranged for her child whenever she could make it to attend 5 meetings with community groups. Thinking this would be a great idea for me, as the Green Party Candidate, I decided to sent out August 12, 2009, 27 emails taken from the Haldimand Norfolk Information Centre - Community Services Database (http://haldimand.cioc.ca/). I received 2 responses. One was from the Caledonia Lions Club stating "Thank you for your offer but LIONS International is non political & non sectarian. You would be best served discussing opportunities provided by the Chamber of Commerce."  The other was from the Order of the Eastern Star, Dunnville, saying she could not open the attachment.

A second contact September 9, 2009 received responses from 2 groups. One response stated, "We are not a politically oriented group    We are a benevolent fraternal group and so would not be interested in hearing from any political advocates.   Thank you for your time and hope you will fare well in your endeavours" The other, Rotary club of Dunnville forwarded my email to the president and offered me a place to speak in Dunnville.

I sent out an email to chamber of commerce and am waiting a response. Does anyone have contacts for me? The Green Party has excellent policies, would love to discuss.

 

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Groups

I'm surprised the Rotary Club would, as some service clubs try to keep it non-partisan.  

However, seniors groups, homeowners and community groups will often invite candidates to their meetings. It really all depends, its harder to get appointments in big cities, but small towns may have an open schedule and be glad for a speakers.

I know I meant with NGO's, student groups, daycare parents association, and home owners groups in my campaign.  Also, some schools have a civics or canadian studies class in grade 10 and 11 and they would enjoy having speakers from political parties in.  Beware, these classes can be a tough crowd!

I even had a grade two teacher ask me to speak to her students which was fun, as it really made me think about simplify the green message down to its basic level.

During election is different

Many groups who "don't want anyone political" between elections are much more open during elections, since it helps inform their members. (Between elections they can't vote, so they'll wonder why you even want to speak to them.) Some groups will invite all candidates, and either have them together (as the Rotary and several other groups in Barrie do) or in sequence (including whomever agrees to show up).

So it's more of a challenge finding these speaking engagements between elections - but very important to do, since the writ period is very short and there is always so much else to do then.

I'll post some suggestions in a direct reply to Anne.

Erich Jacoby-Hawkins, Barrie ON - although I'm on Cabinet (Nat'l Rev. and Ecol. Fiscal Reform), views here are my own and may not reflect official GPC positions. Please visit www.ErichtheGreen.ca

Great idea, yes absolutely do this!

Dear Anne,

This is a really good idea and I strongly suggest you continue with it.  Part of the reason you may have gotten a low response is that you started with an email.  Think about it, would you respond if you were on the other end?  A phone call may get you further, or if it's possible to meet some of these groups at public events a personal connection is even better. Don't be shy and if you're open and honest you will probably at least get a polite response.

Also if you do use email, don't send your info as an attachment.  Put it right in the body of the email to avoid difficulties opening it.

Here in Kitchener Centre we've decided to devote a significant part of our volunteer time towards community organizing and doing outreach to different groups.  Here are some types of groups you might be able to meet:
1. Local business groups
2. Farmer organizations/co-op(especially organic)
3. Community Gardens(more for urban areas)
4. Religious organizations
5. Toastmasters or other public speaking groups
6. Ethnic or cultural groups (Liberals did this with much success for years)
7. Media contacts of all kinds (local, regional, freelance)
8. City, provincial, or county/township level politicians
9. There are many many more....

I see that you are a rural riding, so why don't you try getting contact with the Bruce Grey Owen Sound EDA. They have a had a lot of success in the past and might be able to help you out. There is also Rebecca Harrison who is the Southern Ontario Organizing Rep.
http://greenparty.ca/en/contact/staff

Finally you must go and read this blog on community organizing and the social survey:
http://www.greenparty.ca/blogs/1099/2009-02-02/pdf-power-point-slides-community-organizing-workshop

There is some very practical advice there from a member in Guelph.  They have used these ideas for years and that's why they have been the most successful EDA.

I wish you success in this very important work.

Sincerely,

Matthew Piggott
Kitchener Centre

 

 

"People of good faith, figuring out where we are, not falling victim, making choices, based on our values, with the best available information." These views are my own and do not represent the official position of the Green Party of Canada.

Don't go as the candidate

You can get in to speak to most of these groups, but don't approach them as a candidate (outside of elections). If you do, it will often spook them - they assume you want to convince them to vote Green or ask for donations or something. Even if you propose to speak about something "political" it sets off their red flags and triggers their believe that "political stuff isn't allowed" (although this is rarely actually codified as such in their rules). The fact that you're Green Party just scares them a bit more, since they may assume you're more "out there" and not mainstream.

Instead, you should put together a little resume or short list of qualifications (why you are an interesting/knowledgeable speaker) and a proposed topic you think would be of interest to them. Don't hide that you're a Green candidate (especially if you've run before), but don't highlight it. In fact, if you've not run before, but are merely nominated for a future election, probably don't mention it at all. (Until the writ drops and you file your papers, you're not actually a candidate anyway. Until then, you're just a potential candidate.)

When I seek speaking engagements or am invited to speak, I do it based on my whole experience set - including having served on the board of (and sometimes chaired) our local environmental charity for many years. I'll offer to address a topic like peak oil, or reducing GHG emissions, or saving energy (and money), or advantages of local food, or building sustainable communities, or how reforming property tax rules could reverse sprawl. There are lots of Green topics - pick something you're passionate about and create a PowerPoint. My campaign manager once set up a whole day of high-school civics speaking engagements for us based on our inside knowledge of the political process - forming a party, registering a candidate, running a campaign, etc. - with the promise that we'd be non-partisan. Which we were - but the student Q&A section always focused on Green policy, which I was happy to answer (since they asked). In any non-partisan speaking engagement, aim to leave at least 1/3 of the time for Q&A. That way people can ask you political questions and you are free to answer them. You're not forcing your views on the uninterested.

I have spoken to two Kiwanis clubs (they invited me) and an Optimists club (I had a member invite me) outside of elections. I am scheduled to speak to our Chamber of Commerce next spring, but this is a member's privilege (our EDA is a Chamber member) - yours may not accept "outside" speakers (ours doesn't). I'm planning to speak on various forms of carbon pricing and their impact on business. I spoke to a Bible study group (an EDA exec's family are members) about life-based economics.

Any club that meets monthly will soon run out of speakers - especially those who charge no fee and aren't trying to sell something - so they get desperate. An interesting, non-partisan resume or proposal should get some interest. (Those which meet weekly are even more desperate for speakers).

One thing you should try first is to poll your EDA exec and key volunteers/supporters and find out all the clubs or groups that each of them (or their spouse or other family members) is a member of, then assign each of them to get you a speaking engagement with their group. You may have more success starting with smaller, less formal groups like book clubs or bible study groups or whatever because they won't have some big rulebook that says "nothing political allowed". They are also more likely to accept an invitation from a member, since they won't have a formal speaker-proposal procedure to follow. If you are well received by several of these small groups, it increases your chance to get invited to other groups as an "expert".

You could create something based around your career or hobby - a realtor could talk about how to save energy in the home, a car dealer (or mechanic) could talk about how to use less gasoline, a farmer (or gardener) could talk about growing organic food, a lawyer (or prison guard) could talk about restorative justice, etc.

The thing to keep in mind is the purpose of such speaking isn't to promote the Green Party or Green policy, but to get yourself known and recognized in the community as an intelligent, caring person that people can trust. You want them to see your name on a ballot or election sign and think "oh yeah, I met her when she said all those interesting things about growing a natural lawn". The people in the groups you speak to who are really interested in the Green Party will seek you out after the meeting or later on and the rest will just know you're not a flake. Ideally you want either the person who introduces you - or yourself - to mention at some point your Green Party involvement so those interested folks will know to approach you. It should just be a part of the list of what you do, or even an offhanded mention ("I've always avoided pesticides, which is part of why I'm a Green Party candidate. Now here's what you do if you have aphids on your cucumbers...")

Erich Jacoby-Hawkins, Barrie ON - although I'm on Cabinet (Nat'l Rev. and Ecol. Fiscal Reform), views here are my own and may not reflect official GPC positions. Please visit www.ErichtheGreen.ca

Good outreach effort.

It's great that you're taking the initiative in reaching out to community organisations. The suggestions above are pretty good, and I think they probably represent lots of community organising experience. I would like to make one small suggestion though. If you take a bit of time up front, and decide which communities you want to concentrate your efforts on, it can pay off with better results. For example, if you want to gain the support of an ethnic group, or in a particular area, you can target your efforts. If you're interested, I'd suggest having a look at this link. Start with a phone call, then meet for coffee, and ask for help and introductions. It's not hard to do, and you shouldn't feel nervous about contacting strangers to talk politics. You will probably meet a lot of people who are active, and dedicated to their communities, and their meeting you will leave them much more receptive towards you and your message in the future.

http://greencanada.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/green-party-tactics-and-the-ethnic-vote/

Follow up on "do community groups meet with candidates'?

Thanks for all the suggestions. I will follow up and let you know how things work out. A big issue in this very large rural (may even be largest using 'rural' as designation) is getting access to the internet. As the green candidate, unless constituent has a computer, everything I say is news! e.g I live between con 14 and con 15, which is 3 km long. I knocked on every door, both sides of the road. It took 9 hours, everyone was interested, welcoming, signed the candidate form (35 signatures) and all put one person took my business card. The constituents are interested in alternatives. They are all the stereotypical wonderful things you hear about 'neighbour helping neighbour' for those of us who live in rural Canada. 

After completing my 6 km canvassing, I am now left with 2 895 square kilometres to cover. It is even long distance to call from one end of the EDA to the other, with lots of dead cell phone areas in between. The EDA distance is 160 km from Dunnville in the east to Long Point in the west.

My major concern is the 'how' to get the info about the green party to my constituents. It is a catch-22 situation because I need money to access constituents, and I need access to raise money!

You can now understand how important it is to speak to groups, as individual door to door canvassing is impossible, even if done from pre-writ to pre-writ of the next election. Local papers and radio have given me a lot of room but again not to persons who do not have access to the internet.

I certainly like the idea of presenting myself as a speaker rather than as a candidate. The distances between towns, hamlets and the rural dwellers make that difficult,  but 'bit by bit' this is how to make the green party grow.

"Action" and speaking

On getting the message out affordably: the "Action Pack" (I'd have to check the spelling) from Canada Post, which is an envelope full of coupons, is a very cheap way to get something printed and delivered to all your constituents. And since it's packaged with coupons, the proportion who actually open and read it is much higher than with standard junk mail or shopper inserts. I'll see about posting the contact information I have in the members area (which is where I'd rather be sharing all these tips, to be honest).

On speaking to groups in a rural riding: widening your definition of "groups" can help. BGOS candidate Shane Jolley has a great story about a talk he gave at a rural seniors' centre to a group of bridge players. See if you can attend a training session with Shane.

 

Erich Jacoby-Hawkins, Barrie ON - although I'm on Cabinet (Nat'l Rev. and Ecol. Fiscal Reform), views here are my own and may not reflect official GPC positions. Please visit www.ErichtheGreen.ca

Candidates and Community Groups

Hello Anne,

Your riding sounds very much like mine: large, rural, and largely unpeopled (with the exception of 3 cities in my case). I'm sorry I don't have any ideas for you but I'm really interested in the responses your blog is getting because I'm in the same boat! The next election will be my first as the Green Party candidate for this riding (Cariboo-Prince George) and so I will be on a steep learning curve but am looking forward to sharing any knowledge I pick up along the way.

I have to say I like the idea of offering to speak to local groups as a "professional"  and just happening- to- mention that I'll be the Green candidate on the next ballot.

Best of luck to you and thanks for asking about rural ridings.

 

 

 

Rural phone canvas is important component

Rural area's are very difficult to canvas door to door. The best way to reach out is to start a systematic telephone canvas.

I am told the the GRIMES database can be populated with telephone numbers, if you politely ask head office. You should find out about GRIMES, and learn all that you can before the election. For an effective phone canvas, you will want to target the polls that have the highest proportion of Green Party voters. You can find this out by visiting: http://www.elections.ca/intro.asp?section=pas&document=index&lang=e

choose the 40'th general election, and then Go To the Raw Data version (for researchers).download the csv file for your electoral district, and then save it as a spreadsheet. Create a column that calculates the percentage of Green vote for every poll, and then sort the whole poll list in descending rank of % green vote. The polls with the highest % vote become your targets for the canvas.

It is a good idea to prepare all this well ahead of time, and be prepared to teach new volunteers how  to do it. It is very important that you have tasks ready for volunteers, so there is no confusion, or wasted time when the volunteer steps forward. Volunteers want to think that their time won't be wasted, and that they are doing something useful. This is a not particularly demanding thing that will be easily set up.

I would also suggest that pretty well every campaign should have a place somewhere where they can set up a couple of phones and computers. It is much more productive, and builds esprit if several people can work together. It is also a rare volunteer that can sit at home, pounding the phones night after night, so having peple work together is both more interesting, and much more likely to get a lot of phone calls made. This way you can start building lists of supporters, sign takers, and more volunteers.

Source of data from past elections

Just a reminder that I put all data from the last two elections into databases already.

http://greenfiles.northeyfamily.com/

This includes Excel sheets with overall results by riding by party for 2006 vs 2008 (given no ridings changed during that time frame it is really easy to compare results) and an Access file with 2006 and 2008 poll by poll data (given polls change between elections this needs maps to go with it to see what changed where).

For fun here are some stats...

18 polls in total (coast to coast to coast) hit the 50% mark, with 79 over 40%, 338 over 30%, 1504 over 20%, and 13,665 at or over 10% out of the 69,557 total polls in the country.  Another feature is 'Green Lead' which indicates if the Green Party received the highest votes in that particular poll. This occurred 154 times (vs just 16 times in 2006 with just one cracking 50%) and all had at least 10 votes for the Green Party (10 out of 14 total in one poll), with 139 out of the 154 being polls where 100+ voted.

John Northey
Wellington-Halton Hills

Rural thank you

Suggestions have been great, and like the rest of you, we did our poll analysis immediately after the last election. Pretty much what we already knew... we need to break into the large number of voters outside our towns and hamlets (where most of our support came)', which goes back to the lack of internet access, long distance calling etc.  Calling in the rural area is not like calling in the urban areas. When you get access to a live person, they are super friendly, informative and interesting. Calling a list of 150 names may take up to a week, but it is worth the time.Last time I was invited to meet persons for coffee and one even for lunch at her place!

GRIMES is still an excellent suggestion, and I will get started on that asap. Also the info about cheap delivery is critical, and then can document after election how well these two are working. Any attempt to attend events that are not-political is treated politely but as intrusive, to my wonderful hard working rural constituents and neighbours. I shall today go to Harvest Festival, used to be the tobacco festival,  with my 2 granddaughters.