CSIS may use intelligence derived from torture

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By Stephen LaFrenie on 9 February 2012 - 9:10am

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/02/07/pol-cp-torture-csis.htm...

"The federal government is defending itself after more information has come to light about its directions to Canada's spy agency to use information that may have been extracted through torture in cases where public safety is at stake."

Bob Rae challenged the Conservative government to explain how this directive was compatible with Canada's obligations under international law.  While the NDP put forward the position so far that accepting intelligence obtained from torture in fact encourages and is complicit in the torture itself. 

We should keep in mind that the case for war against Iraq was built on false intelligence and so called allies like Pakistan and other countries that use torture cannot be trusted.

 

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Green Party response to the use of information from torture

Submitted by Stephen LaFrenie on 11 February 2012 - 4:02pm.

 

http://greenparty.ca/media-release/2012-02-07/no-exceptions-torture

“Yet again Stephen Harper re-defines morality.  He used to insist that information obtained by torture was tainted and should be discarded.  When did this become tolerable?” asked Eric Walton, Green International Affairs Critic.   "We have seen over and over again that the information obtained by torture is notoriously unreliable and can lead to a disastrous course of action”  added Mr Walton.

This blog reflects my personal opinion. It is not official Green Party Policy. www.departmentofpeace.ca 

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Is this what Canadians really want?

Submitted by Rick Shea on 11 February 2012 - 7:23pm.

Meanwhile, Mr. Harper is in China two-stepping around the human rights issues, trying to entice China into purchasing our bitumen, and looking for more free trade - you know, the type of trade that Mr. Mulroney promised us would bring manna from heaven, make every Canadian wealthy, and pay for social programs such as the OAS.

But of course morality and accountability have no business here. It's just business, after all.

Information from Torture

Submitted by Bram Kivenko on 12 February 2012 - 1:39pm.

We need to accept that for all intents and purposes, information no matter how obtained, will get used.  Yes, we can prevent information obtained via torture from being used in the justice system, but on the front-lines, you can't stop it.

On that basis, there is no reason for Stephen Harper to say that we can use information gleaned from torture, because it will be used anyway.  It does, however, make us seem to condone torture with a nod and a wink.

Instead of a free-trade agreement with China, what Canada should be doing is negotiating some sort of protectionist advantage for the right of the Chinese to purchase our oil.  Economically, there is no justification in selling out to the Chinese.  They need our bitumen more than we need them.

And yet, this is from as generously a conservative perspective as I can think of.  From a more left-wing perspective, he is completely off-base.

(one additional note is that the case for war against Iraq was *intentionally* built off of false intelligence.)

Harper rewards China for

Submitted by Constantine Kri... on 14 February 2012 - 1:44pm.

Harper rewards China for murdering Falon Gong practitioners because of thier faith and then selling their body parts.

Just another step in the maniacal genocide that Harper steals Canadian tax dollars to inflict on the planet.

 

Constantine Kritsonis